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Sometimes a piece comes along that seems to fit the criteria, but not quite. So it makes life a little difficult to say who the manufacturer was. I will place here pieces that might be Ridgway, but also might not. If anyone has similar pieces, or pieces that share features of any piece on this page please let me know, with photographs. Many thanks!

Sprigged Wares

Flower pot and stand.

Leaning Rose Moulding shape

Pattern 4584

Pattern 4880

Unidentified fractional numbers

Pattern 1/4034

 

Sprigged Wares

Flower pot and stand.

The two main sprigs on the flower pot are known on Ridgway pieces, but always inside a frame with a shell at the top, as with the mugs shown here. Further, Dr. Godden in his Ridgway Porcelains (Woodbridge, 1985), p.66, Plate 63, shows a flower pot and stand with the framed sprigs, but different handles and different proportions. Having said that, the pot stand has the same sprigging as that in the book and the pale green overglaze decoration of this piece was often used on Ridgway flatware borders. The mask handles, which should be a distinctive marker, I have not seen elsewhere.

Green flower pot and stand

Green flower pot top

Green flower pot side 1

Green flower pot handle

Green flower pot side 2

Green flower pot base

Green flower pot stand top

Green flower pot stand side

Green flower pot and stand

Photos © Angela Grant 2019

 

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Leaning Rose Moulding shape

This Leaning Rose shape has long presented a problem of identification. Previously we have seen only Mazarin border patterns with the leaning rose edge moulding picked out in gold. They were considered as of uncertain origin, possibly Ridgway. Since these grey border patterns have come to the fore it has become clear that the style of gilding seems to fit Alcock better than Ridgway. The numbering system, however, suits neither very well. Patterns in this shape are generally in the 4000s

Pattern 4584

The dessert plates are 238mm in diameter. Bone china.

Pattern 4584 dessert plate 1 front

Pattern 4584 dessert plate 2 front

Pattern 4584 dessert plate 2 front detail

On this pattern the moulding is clearly defined.

Pattern 4584 dessert plate pattern number

Photos © Robert Hawker 2021

 

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Pattern 4880

The dessert plate is 230mm in diameter. Bone china.

Pattern 4880 dessert plate front

Pattern 4880 dessert plate front detail

Pattern 4880 dessert plate front edge moulding

On this pattern the moulding is hidden by the decoration.

Pattern 4880 dessert plate pattern number

Photos © Sujing Dum 2020

 

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Unidentified fractional numbers

Pattern 1/4034

Several factories have fractional numbering systems. This comport was thought to be by Alcock mostly because the pattern number is in the border colour, but it became apparent that the style is far later than the pattern number would allow. So it is not Alcock and belongs to another factory that used a fractional number system under 1/ as yet undiscovered.

The short dessert comport is 203mm in diameter and 51mm tall. Bone china.

Pattern 1/4034 short dessert comport top

Pattern 1/4034 short dessert comport top detail

Pattern 1/4034 short dessert comport side

Pattern 1/4034 short dessert comport base

Pattern 1/4034 short dessert comport pattern number

Photos © David House 2020

 

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