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Sometimes a piece comes along that seems to fit the criteria, but not quite. So it makes life a little difficult to say who the manufacturer was. I will place here pieces that might be Ridgway, but also might not. If anyone has similar pieces, or pieces that share features of any piece on this page please let me know, with photographs. Many thanks!

Sprigged Wares

Oval dessert dish.

Blue & White Wares

Non-Ridgway Curling Palm

Copies of Hicks 'Priory' shape

Pattern 942

Egg & Bacon Moulding shape

3-figure series

Pattern 150

4-figure series

Pattern 3873

Pattern 3948

Leaning Rose Moulding shape

Pattern 4584

Pattern 4880

Unidentified fractional numbers

Pattern 1/3997

Pattern 1/4034

 

Sprigged Wares

Oval dessert dish.

Godden illustrates an example of this dish in his Ridgway Porcelains (Woodbridge, 1985), p.62, Plate 55, which he refers to as 'Unmarked but almost certainly early Ridgway'. Certainly the centre sprig of his illustrated example has been observed on marked Ridgway pieces, but the centre sprig on the example illustrated here has not. Also the shape is not one I would associate with Cauldon Place. That must leave an element of doubt. Should a marked example, or some other evidence, turn up, however, I would be happy to reconsider the attribution.

The oval dessert dish is 280mm long and 205mm wide. Probably porcellanised earthenware (the body is slightly translucent).

Oval dessert dish front

Oval dessert dish front detail

Oval dessert dish back

Photos © Paul Mooney 2021

 

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Blue & White Wares

Mostly patterns that copy Ridgway but I don't know who made them.

Non-Ridgway Curling Palm

Once upon a time it was thought that all Curling Palm was made by Job Ridgway. This was because the only marked examples were impressed with his name. Now we know that, just as all Chinoiserie Ruins is not by Davenport, so all Curling Palm is not by Ridgway.

The dinner plate is 252mm in diameter. Pearlware.

Most Ridgway pearlware tableware of this period is flat backed. This dinner plate has a curled in foot with a recessed back. If anyone recognises the shape I would be grateful to hear about it.

Curling Palm dinner plate front

Curling Palm dinner plate side

Curling Palm dinner plate back

Photos © Angela Grant 2023

 

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Copies of Hicks 'Priory' shape

Hicks & Meigh 'Priory' shape was copied by other manufacturers, mostly in earthenware, but also occasionally in bone china.

Pattern 942

This pattern was thought to be Hicks bone china, but the pattern number is too low for real 'Priory' patterns, and the real ones have moulded flower heads inside the short reverse curves at the edge. The print appears to copy 'Hicks No.81' print but the print does not conform to Hicks style. Manufacturer is unknown.

The dessert plate is 215mm in diameter. Bone china.

Pattern 942 dessert plate front

Pattern 942 dessert plate front detail

Pattern 942 dessert plate front detail 2

Pattern 942 dessert plate back

Pattern 942 dessert plate pattern number

Photos © Paul Mooney 2023

 

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Egg & Bacon Moulding shape

This shape has been argued over for some time. Ridgway is unlikely, but Alcock and Minton second series has also been suggested. It is complicated by there being two number series, a low 3-figure series, and a 4-figure series in the high 3000s and low 4000s.

Egg & Bacon Moulding 3-figure series.

Pattern 150

The dessert plate is 225mm in diameter. Bone china.

Pattern 150 dessert plate front

Pattern 150 dessert plate front detail

Pattern 150 dessert plate back

Pattern 150 dessert plate pattern number

Photos © Don Mikel 2022

 

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Egg & Bacon Moulding 4-figure series.

Pattern 3873

The dessert plate. Bone china.

Pattern 3873 dessert plate front

Pattern 3873 dessert plate front detail

Pattern 3873 dessert plate front detail 2

Pattern 3873 dessert plate pattern number

Photos © Dominique Deng 2020

 

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Pattern 3948

The dessert plate. Bone china.

Pattern 3948 dessert plate front

Pattern 3948 dessert plate front detail

Pattern 3948 dessert plate front detail 2

Pattern 3948 dessert plate pattern number

Photos © Rebecca Bullock 2020

 

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Leaning Rose Moulding shape

This Leaning Rose shape has long presented a problem of identification. Previously we have seen only Mazarin border patterns with the leaning rose edge moulding picked out in gold. They were considered as of uncertain origin, possibly Ridgway. Since these grey border patterns have come to the fore it has become clear that the style of gilding seems to fit Alcock better than Ridgway. The numbering system, however, suits neither very well. Patterns in this shape are generally in the 4000s

Pattern 4584

The rectangular dessert dish. Bone china.

Pattern 4584 rectangular dessert dish front

Pattern 4584 rectangular dessert dish front detail

Pattern 4584 rectangular dessert dish handle detail

Pattern 4584 rectangular dessert dish back

Pattern 4584 rectangular dessert dish pattern number

Photos © Nick Athanasatos 2022

 

The dessert plates are 238mm in diameter. Bone china.

Pattern 4584 dessert plate 1 front

Pattern 4584 dessert plate 2 front

Pattern 4584 dessert plate 2 front detail

On this pattern the moulding is clearly defined.

Pattern 4584 dessert plate pattern number

Photos © Robert Hawker 2021

 

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Pattern 4880

The dessert plate is 230mm in diameter. Bone china.

Pattern 4880 dessert plate front

Pattern 4880 dessert plate front detail

Pattern 4880 dessert plate front edge moulding

On this pattern the moulding is hidden by the decoration.

Pattern 4880 dessert plate pattern number

Photos © Dominique Deng 2020

 

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Unidentified fractional numbers

Pattern 1/3997

The attribution of these teapots is problematic. I first thought they were Ridgway, Bedford Works, because I misread the number as 2/3997, but on finding the number was 1/3997 I reattributed them to Alcock. But they don't fit there because the body is earthenware. They may be by Dimmmock but I'm not sure the number series runs that high, so, for the moment they remain a puzzle.

The teapot. Earthenware.

Pattern 1/3997 teapot left side

Pattern 1/3997 teapot spout side

Pattern 1/3997 teapot right side

Detail from Flaxman's drawing from Homer's Iliad: 'Hector's body dragged at the car of Achilles'.

Pattern 1/3997 teapot handle side

Pattern 1/3997 teapot top

Pattern 1/3997 teapot base

Pattern 1/3997 teapot pattern number

Photos © Kate West 2021

 

I first thought the above teapot was Ridgway, Bedford Works, as I read the pattern number as 2/3997, but I was always slightly troubled by the attribution as the shape was not quite what I expected from Ridgway. But then the following teapot appeared, which made it clear that the pattern was 1/3997. A number of factories used the same Flaxman prints for decoration.

The teapot is 130mm tall. Earthenware.

Pattern 1/3997 teapot left side

Detail from Flaxman's drawing from Homer's Iliad: 'The Departure of Briseis from the Tent of Achilles'.

Pattern 1/3997 teapot left spout side

Pattern 1/3997 teapot spout side

Pattern 1/3997 teapot right side

Pattern 1/3997 teapot handle side

Pattern 1/3997 teapot top

Pattern 1/3997 teapot base

Pattern 1/3997 teapot pattern number

In this case the figure above the line is quite definitely a "1".

Photos © Anonymous 2022

 

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Pattern 1/4034

Several factories have fractional numbering systems. This comport was thought to be by Alcock mostly because the pattern number is in the border colour, but it became apparent that the style is far later than the pattern number would allow. So it is not Alcock and belongs to another factory that used a fractional number system under 1/ as yet undiscovered.

The short dessert comport is 203mm in diameter and 51mm tall. Bone china.

Pattern 1/4034 short dessert comport top

Pattern 1/4034 short dessert comport top detail

Pattern 1/4034 short dessert comport side

Pattern 1/4034 short dessert comport base

Pattern 1/4034 short dessert comport pattern number

Photos © David House 2020

 

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